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" W embarrassed himself and especially Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice when he was in Brasil and he asked the question "Do you have black people here too?"
Baloney.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm
W once said "The problem with the French is that they have no idea of what the word "Entrepreneur"
False.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm
There are many other examples of the nonsense of your long screed, but I havent the time to go through all of them word by word.
"The Iraq war has cost the American taxpayer 300 billion dollars and most of the Iraqis hate us."
Lie. Most Iraqis like us.
"What about the Downing Street memo? For those of you who may not know what the Downing Street memo was because the U.S. press doesn't report it, or under reports it."
Critics read more into the the Downing Street memo than what actually was there.
"Robin Niblett, a member of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, says it would be easy for Americans to misunderstand the reference to intelligence being "fixed around" Iraq policy. " 'Fixed around' in British English means 'bolted on' rather than altered to fit the policy," he says. This view was seconded by the writer Christopher Hitchens. Others have dismissed this criticism, saying the British usage of the term is the same as in the U.S., and that the meaning of "fixed around" in the memo is clear from context.[67] Furthermore, the grammatical conjunction 'but' implies a contradiction which would only be grammatically correct if the phrase 'fixed around' was the American definition.
It has also been pointed by many observers that in the same exact memo, the mention of the possible use of WMD is discussed. Critics argue, this contradicts the purported “smoking gun” of the issue of WMDs being fabricated."
NO SMOKING GUN (Michael Kinsley Slams Downing Street Memo and the Left conspiracy theorists)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/10/AR2005061001705.html
"One cannot leave out the Terri Schiavo case. President Bush got up at 2:00AM to promote legislation that would prolong the life of a patient"
To promote legislation which would giver her appeal access to the federal courts. A right which even murderers sentenced to death have. The people who wanted her dead, didnt want Terri to have that right.
"whose doctors declared her terminally ill."
Barefaced lie. Terri was NOT terminally ill, nor did her doctors declare her so.
"Terri was not dying, was not on life support, and did not have any terminal illness"
http://www.priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/terrisfinalhours.htm
Iraq: Media Manufactured Perception
The experts on how things are going in Iraq are not former State Department officials, former CIA officials who may never have set foot in the country.
The experts are not Senators who have taken junkets or the various other bloviators who populate the green rooms of cable news outlets.
They are the Iraqis themselves.
In a recent poll, more Iraqis, who live in Iraq, say Iraq is headed the right direction than Americans who merely watch TV reports about Iraq or read newspaper reports about Iraq.
Amid the drumbeat of so-called sectarian violence from the Legacy Media, one would think that Iraqis would be to throw in the towel or at least throwdown with each other at a moments notice.
But that is not the case.
Eighty-nine percent of Iraqis think a unity government is important.
Fifty-four percent approve of the unity government with only 25% disapproving. (That is higher than Americans who approve of the current make up of Congress and the Administration.)
Seventy-eight percent of Iraqis oppose partitioning the country along ethnic or religious lines.
The only group supporting partitioning are the Kurds.
And 70% of Iraqis do not know someone who moved because of religious conflict.
So, American watching the Legacy Media report on Iraq think the situation is much worse than the average Iraqi who actually lives in Iraq.
This is the effect of tens or thousands of gross ratings points showing only violence and pessimistic opinions.
But here is where we see the media effect come into play–even in Iraq.
Nationallly, 75% of Iraqis say the security situation in the country is poor.
But, when asked about the security of their own neighborhoods, 60% give the security in their town or neighborhood a passing grade.
This shows the power of the media to conflate a perception–even among those closest too it.
Oh, and 59% of Iraqis watch more than two hours of TV a day.
http://dailydispatch.amermaj.com/2006/08/25/iraq-media-manufactured-perception/
To Anonymous,
I see that you, like so many of your right-wing ethically challenged brethren have a serious problem dealing with the truth. When the truth collides with you selfish greed-driven objectives your resort to misinformation and swift boat tactics. I really laughed when I found that you chose a conservative site to "prove" that George Bush didn't make that statement about blacks being in Brasil. When I looked for you alleged proof I found that the site(www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm) said the statement was "UNDETERMINED"....this has got to be a joke. I was not there, but then again neither were you. "Der Spiegel" to my knowledge has NOT issued a retraction so it is more likely than not the George W. Bush said it.
To Anonymous:
With regard Bush's statement about the French not having a word for entrepreneur "W once said "The problem with the French is that they have no idea of what the word "Entrepreneur" means" I don't know who's worse the conservative website or you. The person who witnessed Bush's statement was not consulted you relied on a known Blair operative instead of the person who witnessed the statement. "Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it," Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must have been a joke." Your reasoning is assinine. Did anyone ever consult Shirley Williams? duh??? Alastair Campbell didn't witness Bush's statement so why is he used as a source? This is just like me asking your father if he has a headache and having your brother say "No" Wouldn't it make more sense to have your father answer?
Most Iraqis like us?....are you delirious? Iraqis were polled by Gallup, which found that over 80% wanted the Americans TO LEAVE. Maybe you were thinking about another US administration? The collateral damage alone resulted in the deaths of many innocent Iraqi civilians. The Bush administration destroyed the Iraqi infrastructure and refused to let Iraqis participate in the rebuilding process(that was reserved for Cheney's former company Halliburton, which overcharged the US taxpayer for its services). I'm sure they were just crazy about Abu Ghraib.Yeah, the Iraqis like us just like they like root canals. All of this unwarranted violence was done in "OUR" name yet most Americans abhor this dispicably aggressive behavior.
To Anonymnous:
You, like most Bushies are praying that Republicans remain in control of the house and senate. If we have fair elections and "real" Democrats win George W. might find himself impeached and "The Downing Street Memo" may play a crucial role. Look at what is being said on these websites www.afterdowningstreet.com www.downingstreetmemo.com
The Republican mantra over the last two decades has been "We need smaller government. Let's get the government off of our backs". In the case of Terri Schiavo we find the Bush administration playing the role of big government interfering in the private lives of US citizens. This hypocrisy is even more stunning when you take into account that when George W. Bush was governor of Texas he backed a law that said the hospital, not the family would have final say in determining if an incapacitated patient should live or die. The Miami Herald reports that Jeb Bush was planning to send police to the hospital in order to insert the feeding tube, completely ignoring the dictates of a federal judge. Ten children were killed in Minnesota in a Colombine-like incident....as of March 26, 2005 President Bush has said NOTHING about this. But he can get out of his bed at 2:00AM to put himself into the fray of the Terri Schiavo case. It is obvious that the right wing involvement in the life of Terri Schiavo is to take the heat off of Tom Delay. The most influencial man in congress finds himself knee deep in the big muddy with three accusations of improper conduct. If Tom Delay is able to walk, this will set a precedent. Like minded ultraconservatives will have destroyed the constitution and our democratic form of government. When vice-president Dick Cheney ignored a subpoena by the General Accounting Office I could see that we were moving in that direction. If the U.S. citizenry let's Delay off the hook we are headed for limitless demagogery. Anyone who reads this message and has a firm belief in democracy should be writing their elected officials to let them know that Tom Delay should not be above the law and that Terri Schiavo's husband should be the one who makes the final decision as to if an attempt should be made to extend her life.
To Anonymous
You claim that you don't have the "time" to refute my statements. "Time" has NOTHING to do with it. You just can't do it. I have mentioned about 10 Bush examples of bad judgment and you only have the "time" to refute three ( in a very lame manner). If you use known conservate sites to "prove" your point then I can use known "progressive" sites to prove mine.
To Anonymous,
You were absolutely correct when you said that I had given a mistaken assessment of the Iraq war cost when I put it at 300 billion......well after doing some research I found it was MORE than 300 billion. As of 5:12 PM, September 18, 2006 the cost of the Iraq was was $315,653,854,841*
*www.theostroyreport.blogspot.com
" W embarrassed himself and especially Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice when he was in Brasil and he asked the question "Do you have black people here too?"
Baloney.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm
W once said "The problem with the French is that they have no idea of what the word "Entrepreneur"
False.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/bush.htm
There are many other examples of the nonsense of your long screed, but I havent the time to go through all of them word by word.
"The Iraq war has cost the American taxpayer 300 billion dollars and most of the Iraqis hate us."
Lie. Most Iraqis like us.
"What about the Downing Street memo? For those of you who may not know what the Downing Street memo was because the U.S. press doesn't report it, or under reports it."
Critics read more into the the Downing Street memo than what actually was there.
"Robin Niblett, a member of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, says it would be easy for Americans to misunderstand the reference to intelligence being "fixed around" Iraq policy. " 'Fixed around' in British English means 'bolted on' rather than altered to fit the policy," he says. This view was seconded by the writer Christopher Hitchens. Others have dismissed this criticism, saying the British usage of the term is the same as in the U.S., and that the meaning of "fixed around" in the memo is clear from context.[67] Furthermore, the grammatical conjunction 'but' implies a contradiction which would only be grammatically correct if the phrase 'fixed around' was the American definition.
It has also been pointed by many observers that in the same exact memo, the mention of the possible use of WMD is discussed. Critics argue, this contradicts the purported “smoking gun” of the issue of WMDs being fabricated."
NO SMOKING GUN (Michael Kinsley Slams Downing Street Memo and the Left conspiracy theorists)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/10/AR2005061001705.html
"One cannot leave out the Terri Schiavo case. President Bush got up at 2:00AM to promote legislation that would prolong the life of a patient"
To promote legislation which would giver her appeal access to the federal courts. A right which even murderers sentenced to death have. The people who wanted her dead, didnt want Terri to have that right.
"whose doctors declared her terminally ill."
Barefaced lie. Terri was NOT terminally ill, nor did her doctors declare her so.
"Terri was not dying, was not on life support, and did not have any terminal illness"
http://www.priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/terrisfinalhours.htm
Iraq: Media Manufactured Perception
The experts on how things are going in Iraq are not former State Department officials, former CIA officials who may never have set foot in the country.
The experts are not Senators who have taken junkets or the various other bloviators who populate the green rooms of cable news outlets.
They are the Iraqis themselves.
In a recent poll, more Iraqis, who live in Iraq, say Iraq is headed the right direction than Americans who merely watch TV reports about Iraq or read newspaper reports about Iraq.
Amid the drumbeat of so-called sectarian violence from the Legacy Media, one would think that Iraqis would be to throw in the towel or at least throwdown with each other at a moments notice.
But that is not the case.
Eighty-nine percent of Iraqis think a unity government is important.
Fifty-four percent approve of the unity government with only 25% disapproving. (That is higher than Americans who approve of the current make up of Congress and the Administration.)
Seventy-eight percent of Iraqis oppose partitioning the country along ethnic or religious lines.
The only group supporting partitioning are the Kurds.
And 70% of Iraqis do not know someone who moved because of religious conflict.
So, American watching the Legacy Media report on Iraq think the situation is much worse than the average Iraqi who actually lives in Iraq.
This is the effect of tens or thousands of gross ratings points showing only violence and pessimistic opinions.
But here is where we see the media effect come into play–even in Iraq.
Nationallly, 75% of Iraqis say the security situation in the country is poor.
But, when asked about the security of their own neighborhoods, 60% give the security in their town or neighborhood a passing grade.
This shows the power of the media to conflate a perception–even among those closest too it.
Oh, and 59% of Iraqis watch more than two hours of TV a day.
http://dailydispatch.amermaj.com/2006/08/25/iraq-media-manufactured-perception/
To Anonymous,
I see that you, like so many of your right-wing ethically challenged brethren have a serious problem dealing with the truth. When the truth collides with you selfish greed-driven objectives your resort to misinformation and swift boat tactics. I really laughed when I found that you chose a conservative site to "prove" that George Bush didn't make that statement about blacks being in Brasil. When I looked for you alleged proof I found that the site(www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm) said the statement was "UNDETERMINED"....this has got to be a joke. I was not there, but then again neither were you. "Der Spiegel" to my knowledge has NOT issued a retraction so it is more likely than not the George W. Bush said it.
To Anonymous:
With regard Bush's statement about the French not having a word for entrepreneur "W once said "The problem with the French is that they have no idea of what the word "Entrepreneur" means" I don't know who's worse the conservative website or you. The person who witnessed Bush's statement was not consulted you relied on a known Blair operative instead of the person who witnessed the statement. "Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post was unable to reach Baroness Williams to gain her confirmation of the tale, but he did receive a call from Alastair Campbell, Blair's director of communications and strategy. "I can tell you that the prime minister never heard George Bush say that, and he certainly never told Shirley Williams that President Bush did say it," Campbell told The Post. "If she put this in a speech, it must have been a joke." Your reasoning is assinine. Did anyone ever consult Shirley Williams? duh??? Alastair Campbell didn't witness Bush's statement so why is he used as a source? This is just like me asking your father if he has a headache and having your brother say "No" Wouldn't it make more sense to have your father answer?
Most Iraqis like us?....are you delirious? Iraqis were polled by Gallup, which found that over 80% wanted the Americans TO LEAVE. Maybe you were thinking about another US administration? The collateral damage alone resulted in the deaths of many innocent Iraqi civilians. The Bush administration destroyed the Iraqi infrastructure and refused to let Iraqis participate in the rebuilding process(that was reserved for Cheney's former company Halliburton, which overcharged the US taxpayer for its services). I'm sure they were just crazy about Abu Ghraib.Yeah, the Iraqis like us just like they like root canals. All of this unwarranted violence was done in "OUR" name yet most Americans abhor this dispicably aggressive behavior.
To Anonymnous:
You, like most Bushies are praying that Republicans remain in control of the house and senate. If we have fair elections and "real" Democrats win George W. might find himself impeached and "The Downing Street Memo" may play a crucial role. Look at what is being said on these websites www.afterdowningstreet.com www.downingstreetmemo.com
The Republican mantra over the last two decades has been "We need smaller government. Let's get the government off of our backs". In the case of Terri Schiavo we find the Bush administration playing the role of big government interfering in the private lives of US citizens. This hypocrisy is even more stunning when you take into account that when George W. Bush was governor of Texas he backed a law that said the hospital, not the family would have final say in determining if an incapacitated patient should live or die. The Miami Herald reports that Jeb Bush was planning to send police to the hospital in order to insert the feeding tube, completely ignoring the dictates of a federal judge. Ten children were killed in Minnesota in a Colombine-like incident....as of March 26, 2005 President Bush has said NOTHING about this. But he can get out of his bed at 2:00AM to put himself into the fray of the Terri Schiavo case. It is obvious that the right wing involvement in the life of Terri Schiavo is to take the heat off of Tom Delay. The most influencial man in congress finds himself knee deep in the big muddy with three accusations of improper conduct. If Tom Delay is able to walk, this will set a precedent. Like minded ultraconservatives will have destroyed the constitution and our democratic form of government. When vice-president Dick Cheney ignored a subpoena by the General Accounting Office I could see that we were moving in that direction. If the U.S. citizenry let's Delay off the hook we are headed for limitless demagogery. Anyone who reads this message and has a firm belief in democracy should be writing their elected officials to let them know that Tom Delay should not be above the law and that Terri Schiavo's husband should be the one who makes the final decision as to if an attempt should be made to extend her life.
To Anonymous
You claim that you don't have the "time" to refute my statements. "Time" has NOTHING to do with it. You just can't do it. I have mentioned about 10 Bush examples of bad judgment and you only have the "time" to refute three ( in a very lame manner). If you use known conservate sites to "prove" your point then I can use known "progressive" sites to prove mine.
To Anonymous,
You were absolutely correct when you said that I had given a mistaken assessment of the Iraq war cost when I put it at 300 billion......well after doing some research I found it was MORE than 300 billion. As of 5:12 PM, September 18, 2006 the cost of the Iraq was was $315,653,854,841*
*www.theostroyreport.blogspot.com